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		<title>By: The Simulacrum of Self in the Quest for Authenticity &#124; Beyond Growth</title>
		<link>http://beyondgrowth.net/beyond-growth-project/why-we-must-talk-about-fight-club/comment-page-1/#comment-187</link>
		<dc:creator>The Simulacrum of Self in the Quest for Authenticity &#124; Beyond Growth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2009 07:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I was looking up clips of Fight Club for my first blog post, I found an interesting related video on YouTube. In the clip below, the pick-up artist and [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Duff McDuffee</title>
		<link>http://beyondgrowth.net/beyond-growth-project/why-we-must-talk-about-fight-club/comment-page-1/#comment-42</link>
		<dc:creator>Duff McDuffee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 20:35:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I too am bothered by lack of credentials, yet I&#039;m not sure what kind of academic credentials would qualify someone to help me live a better life! 
 
Positive psychology seems like a good start, but is based in philosophical hedonism (the purpose of life is happiness, and happiness is a persistent positive mood). If anything, philosophy should be our guide, as we could then consider amongst possible alternative conceptions of The Good, yet few if any academic philosophers live the philosophies they study. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I too am bothered by lack of credentials, yet I&#039;m not sure what kind of academic credentials would qualify someone to help me live a better life! </p>
<p>Positive psychology seems like a good start, but is based in philosophical hedonism (the purpose of life is happiness, and happiness is a persistent positive mood). If anything, philosophy should be our guide, as we could then consider amongst possible alternative conceptions of The Good, yet few if any academic philosophers live the philosophies they study.</p>
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		<title>By: Bakari</title>
		<link>http://beyondgrowth.net/beyond-growth-project/why-we-must-talk-about-fight-club/comment-page-1/#comment-39</link>
		<dc:creator>Bakari</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Aug 2009 18:25:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well Alright!!! 
 
I agree with your position. I admit that I am a self-development junkie. I have been since I was a pre-teen. At the same time I am an academic and as of late I have been truly bothered by the number of people who are involved in providing advice for others but it is difficult to tell what would qualify them to offer such advice. 
 
I am not saying that academic credentials are required; unless you are telling people how to obtain a certain type of degree or how to conduct research. What I am saying is that more objective proof should be injected into the advice given.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well Alright!!! </p>
<p>I agree with your position. I admit that I am a self-development junkie. I have been since I was a pre-teen. At the same time I am an academic and as of late I have been truly bothered by the number of people who are involved in providing advice for others but it is difficult to tell what would qualify them to offer such advice. </p>
<p>I am not saying that academic credentials are required; unless you are telling people how to obtain a certain type of degree or how to conduct research. What I am saying is that more objective proof should be injected into the advice given.</p>
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		<title>By: Duff McDuffee</title>
		<link>http://beyondgrowth.net/beyond-growth-project/why-we-must-talk-about-fight-club/comment-page-1/#comment-37</link>
		<dc:creator>Duff McDuffee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Aug 2009 07:16:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the comment and the support, Herbert. If you don&#039;t understand something someone has written here, feel free to ask questions about it, as you are probably not the only one, and I&#039;d like our conversations to be accessible. 
 
Hope you&#039;ll subscribe and join us in discussion of these topics. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the comment and the support, Herbert. If you don&#039;t understand something someone has written here, feel free to ask questions about it, as you are probably not the only one, and I&#039;d like our conversations to be accessible. </p>
<p>Hope you&#039;ll subscribe and join us in discussion of these topics.</p>
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		<title>By: Herbert</title>
		<link>http://beyondgrowth.net/beyond-growth-project/why-we-must-talk-about-fight-club/comment-page-1/#comment-36</link>
		<dc:creator>Herbert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Aug 2009 04:28:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At first, I was like &quot;OH BOY ANOTHER FIGHT CLUB POST!&quot; I really loved Fight Club. Boy, did we open a can of worms here, haha. It&#039;s interesting to see these ideas being brought up (even though I&#039;m sure I didn&#039;t understand some of them), and this most certainly is interesting. 
 
Keep up the posting, it&#039;s very original and more than readable. I love it. And hope to understand it more (maybe I&#039;ll give it a second read). </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At first, I was like &quot;OH BOY ANOTHER FIGHT CLUB POST!&quot; I really loved Fight Club. Boy, did we open a can of worms here, haha. It&#039;s interesting to see these ideas being brought up (even though I&#039;m sure I didn&#039;t understand some of them), and this most certainly is interesting. </p>
<p>Keep up the posting, it&#039;s very original and more than readable. I love it. And hope to understand it more (maybe I&#039;ll give it a second read).</p>
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		<title>By: Duff McDuffee</title>
		<link>http://beyondgrowth.net/beyond-growth-project/why-we-must-talk-about-fight-club/comment-page-1/#comment-35</link>
		<dc:creator>Duff McDuffee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jul 2009 01:48:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Right on, Joseph. I&#039;ve only recently come to see the contradictions in LOHAS businesses, but the &quot;have your cake and eat it too&quot; is exactly the thing. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Right on, Joseph. I&#039;ve only recently come to see the contradictions in LOHAS businesses, but the &quot;have your cake and eat it too&quot; is exactly the thing.</p>
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		<title>By: Duff McDuffee</title>
		<link>http://beyondgrowth.net/beyond-growth-project/why-we-must-talk-about-fight-club/comment-page-1/#comment-34</link>
		<dc:creator>Duff McDuffee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jul 2009 01:47:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Kate. I have indeed read Jed McKenna. He is good for setting things on fire, although I disagree with a lot of his conclusions. A great writer though, whoever he is. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Kate. I have indeed read Jed McKenna. He is good for setting things on fire, although I disagree with a lot of his conclusions. A great writer though, whoever he is.</p>
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		<title>By: kate</title>
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		<dc:creator>kate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2009 11:15:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>duff . . . you so should read jed mckenna . . . if there were a jed mckenna . . . which there isn&#039;t . . . but the pretend jed mckenna wrote three books, and they are wonderful for setting things on fire :) blaze on . . .  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>duff . . . you so should read jed mckenna . . . if there were a jed mckenna . . . which there isn&#039;t . . . but the pretend jed mckenna wrote three books, and they are wonderful for setting things on fire <img src='http://beyondgrowth.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  blaze on . . .</p>
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		<title>By: Joseph</title>
		<link>http://beyondgrowth.net/beyond-growth-project/why-we-must-talk-about-fight-club/comment-page-1/#comment-32</link>
		<dc:creator>Joseph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2009 03:43:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Duff 
 
In my writing I refer to the tendency in some Christian circles of denying violence yet simultaneously invoking it through the biblical language of spiritual warfare (and that Wilber does the same in his third-tier-language Wyatt Earp moments). I think this is also going on with the popularity of Fight Club: we can clearly read it as a critique of a dysfunctional and pathological society (and masculinity), but simultaneously get a buzz from the bloody knuckles. This duality is summed up well in the famous line, at once optimistic and nihilistic: &#8220;lets evolve, let the chips fall where they may&#8221;. 
 
There&#8217;s a lot of having-cake-and-eating-it going on. The most insidious occurrence of this dual thinking is happening in the LOHAS marketplace where everyone acknowledges the unsavory nature of capitalism and profiteering, and then revision it to &#8220;conscious capitalism&#8221;, &#8220;social profit&#8221;, &#8220;green business&#8221;, &#8220;triple bottom line&#8221;. Reminds me of something someone said to me the other day: &quot;history doesn&#039;t repeat itself, but suffering does&quot;. 
 
JG. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Duff </p>
<p>In my writing I refer to the tendency in some Christian circles of denying violence yet simultaneously invoking it through the biblical language of spiritual warfare (and that Wilber does the same in his third-tier-language Wyatt Earp moments). I think this is also going on with the popularity of Fight Club: we can clearly read it as a critique of a dysfunctional and pathological society (and masculinity), but simultaneously get a buzz from the bloody knuckles. This duality is summed up well in the famous line, at once optimistic and nihilistic: &ldquo;lets evolve, let the chips fall where they may&rdquo;. </p>
<p>There&rsquo;s a lot of having-cake-and-eating-it going on. The most insidious occurrence of this dual thinking is happening in the LOHAS marketplace where everyone acknowledges the unsavory nature of capitalism and profiteering, and then revision it to &ldquo;conscious capitalism&rdquo;, &ldquo;social profit&rdquo;, &ldquo;green business&rdquo;, &ldquo;triple bottom line&rdquo;. Reminds me of something someone said to me the other day: &quot;history doesn&#039;t repeat itself, but suffering does&quot;. </p>
<p>JG.</p>
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		<title>By: Duff McDuffee</title>
		<link>http://beyondgrowth.net/beyond-growth-project/why-we-must-talk-about-fight-club/comment-page-1/#comment-31</link>
		<dc:creator>Duff McDuffee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2009 01:42:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Indeed, our little online world evolves very quickly. I&#039;d love to hear more of your forum so I can connect the dialogues here with conversations occurring elsewhere. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Indeed, our little online world evolves very quickly. I&#039;d love to hear more of your forum so I can connect the dialogues here with conversations occurring elsewhere.</p>
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