Comments on: The Dark Side of The Secret: Reading James Arthur Ray’s Sweat Lodge Disaster through a Magickal Lens http://beyondgrowth.net/guru-criticism/the-dark-side-of-the-secret-reading-james-arthur-rays-sweat-lodge-disaster-through-a-magickal-lens/ Exploring the Future of Personal Development Wed, 25 Aug 2010 18:50:51 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Glenn http://beyondgrowth.net/guru-criticism/the-dark-side-of-the-secret-reading-james-arthur-rays-sweat-lodge-disaster-through-a-magickal-lens/comment-page-2/#comment-2547 Glenn Wed, 25 Aug 2010 18:50:51 +0000 http://beyondgrowth.net/?p=778#comment-2547 When people see some things as beautiful, other things become ugly. When people see some things as good, other things become bad. Being and non-being create each other. Difficult and easy support each other. Long and short define each other. High and low depend on each other. Before and after follow each other. Therefore the Master acts without doing anything and teaches without saying anything. Things arise and she lets them come; things disappear and she lets them go. She has but doesn't possess, acts but doesn't expect. When her work is done, she forgets it. That is why it lasts forever. (Lao Tse - transl Steven Mitchell) When people see some things as beautiful, other things become ugly. When people see some things as good, other things become bad. Being and non-being create each other. Difficult and easy support each other. Long and short define each other. High and low depend on each other. Before and after follow each other. Therefore the Master acts without doing anything and teaches without saying anything. Things arise and she lets them come; things disappear and she lets them go. She has but doesn't possess, acts but doesn't expect. When her work is done, she forgets it. That is why it lasts forever.
(Lao Tse – transl Steven Mitchell)

]]> By: Duff McDuffee http://beyondgrowth.net/guru-criticism/the-dark-side-of-the-secret-reading-james-arthur-rays-sweat-lodge-disaster-through-a-magickal-lens/comment-page-2/#comment-2546 Duff McDuffee Wed, 25 Aug 2010 17:53:39 +0000 http://beyondgrowth.net/?p=778#comment-2546 Exactly. Exactly.

]]> By: istanbulenglish http://beyondgrowth.net/guru-criticism/the-dark-side-of-the-secret-reading-james-arthur-rays-sweat-lodge-disaster-through-a-magickal-lens/comment-page-2/#comment-2545 istanbulenglish Wed, 25 Aug 2010 12:30:55 +0000 http://beyondgrowth.net/?p=778#comment-2545 I've always thought that words were strangely prophetic - makes me think of Jung's idea of synchronicity. I've always thought that words were strangely prophetic – makes me think of Jung's idea of synchronicity.

]]> By: Duff McDuffee http://beyondgrowth.net/guru-criticism/the-dark-side-of-the-secret-reading-james-arthur-rays-sweat-lodge-disaster-through-a-magickal-lens/comment-page-2/#comment-2513 Duff McDuffee Wed, 11 Aug 2010 19:12:35 +0000 http://beyondgrowth.net/?p=778#comment-2513 Good examples. Mercenary and arrogant sportsman fit perfectly. Good examples. Mercenary and arrogant sportsman fit perfectly.

]]> By: LondonKdS http://beyondgrowth.net/guru-criticism/the-dark-side-of-the-secret-reading-james-arthur-rays-sweat-lodge-disaster-through-a-magickal-lens/comment-page-2/#comment-2512 LondonKdS Wed, 11 Aug 2010 16:35:43 +0000 http://beyondgrowth.net/?p=778#comment-2512 You can widen this a bit by considering the element of financial motivation in this affair, and also in the self-centredness of much "personal development". What is a Warrior who fights for material gain? At best a mercenary who might possibly be working for an admirable course, at worst a bandit. And what is a Warrior who fights for a selfish kind of "self-development"? At best an arrogant sportsman who misses much of the spiritual side of his art, at absolute worst a bloodthirsty, sadistic spree killer. You can widen this a bit by considering the element of financial motivation in this affair, and also in the self-centredness of much “personal development”. What is a Warrior who fights for material gain? At best a mercenary who might possibly be working for an admirable course, at worst a bandit. And what is a Warrior who fights for a selfish kind of “self-development”? At best an arrogant sportsman who misses much of the spiritual side of his art, at absolute worst a bloodthirsty, sadistic spree killer.

]]> By: Shamanic Healing http://beyondgrowth.net/guru-criticism/the-dark-side-of-the-secret-reading-james-arthur-rays-sweat-lodge-disaster-through-a-magickal-lens/comment-page-2/#comment-2228 Shamanic Healing Mon, 12 Jul 2010 09:46:34 +0000 http://beyondgrowth.net/?p=778#comment-2228 Shamanic healing focuses on energetic and emotional "spring cleaning" and then on bringing a person back to wholeness. We often travel through life dragging all our emotional baggage with us, but this is not necessary! We can leave it all behind us and move forward into a life of happiness and freedom, and liberate ourselves from our past through Shamanic healing Shamanic healing focuses on energetic and emotional "spring cleaning" and then on bringing a person back to wholeness. We often travel through life dragging all our emotional baggage with us, but this is not necessary! We can leave it all behind us and move forward into a life of happiness and freedom, and liberate ourselves from our past through Shamanic healing

]]> By: Synesthesia http://beyondgrowth.net/guru-criticism/the-dark-side-of-the-secret-reading-james-arthur-rays-sweat-lodge-disaster-through-a-magickal-lens/comment-page-2/#comment-2177 Synesthesia Wed, 30 Jun 2010 15:31:42 +0000 http://beyondgrowth.net/?p=778#comment-2177 I believe in thinking positive, but there's no way I'd give that much money to some guru. I can think positively for free, on my own, thank you. I can't believe he was allowed to do that.. to have a sweat lodge ceremony in such an unhealthy way! I believe in thinking positive, but there's no way I'd give that much money to some guru. I can think positively for free, on my own, thank you.
I can't believe he was allowed to do that.. to have a sweat lodge ceremony in such an unhealthy way!

]]> By: Coach Nancy http://beyondgrowth.net/guru-criticism/the-dark-side-of-the-secret-reading-james-arthur-rays-sweat-lodge-disaster-through-a-magickal-lens/comment-page-1/#comment-1931 Coach Nancy Mon, 03 May 2010 19:53:43 +0000 http://beyondgrowth.net/?p=778#comment-1931 With regard to the LOA this is an excellent point ... if you are a 'warrior' what do you invite? Perhaps part of the new paradigm would be a shift in appropriate language options for dealing with suffering, struggle, and mastery of self power and self love. With regard to the LOA this is an excellent point … if you are a 'warrior' what do you invite? Perhaps part of the new paradigm would be a shift in appropriate language options for dealing with suffering, struggle, and mastery of self power and self love.

]]> By: Duff McDuffee http://beyondgrowth.net/guru-criticism/the-dark-side-of-the-secret-reading-james-arthur-rays-sweat-lodge-disaster-through-a-magickal-lens/comment-page-2/#comment-1794 Duff McDuffee Sun, 07 Mar 2010 23:36:15 +0000 http://beyondgrowth.net/?p=778#comment-1794 Yes, I agree completely. I also just today posted this article: <a href="http://beyondgrowth.net/spirituality/can-we-love-our-enemies-without-idiot-compassion-or-shaming/" target="_blank">http://beyondgrowth.net/spirituality/can-we-love-...</a> Yes, I agree completely.

I also just today posted this article:
http://beyondgrowth.net/spirituality/can-we-love-...

]]> By: Janine http://beyondgrowth.net/guru-criticism/the-dark-side-of-the-secret-reading-james-arthur-rays-sweat-lodge-disaster-through-a-magickal-lens/comment-page-2/#comment-1792 Janine Sun, 07 Mar 2010 22:35:50 +0000 http://beyondgrowth.net/?p=778#comment-1792 A wolf in sheeps clothing. NOT a spiritual, symbolic, power totem animal wolf. A crafty, opportunistic predator, When no one is looking, James Ray is counting his ill-gotten loot and planning his next deception. He needs a decade in prison to think about what a creepy little man he is. A wolf in sheeps clothing. NOT a spiritual, symbolic, power totem animal wolf. A crafty, opportunistic predator, When no one is looking, James Ray is counting his ill-gotten loot and planning his next deception. He needs a decade in prison to think about what a creepy little man he is.

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